Hiatt wants ‘correct information’ available concerning UW Cowboys pick-up line discussion

Greetings. I am writing to the Branding Iron again because I feel that I need to respond to some of the reactions I have seen to my letter regarding the “Ask the Cowboys” segment during the Nebraska game.

There has been a great deal of discussion on the subject on the BI’s website, but I worry that for each person commenting online, there could be a hundred people sitting silently at home with the same misconceptions of the situation.

And considering the severity of the issue, I feel I have a duty to make sure that my point is clearly made, and that the correct information is available to everyone.

Reaction: “It was just a joke.”

I understand that the player’s use of “Does this napkin smell like chloroform?” as a pick-up line may have been intended to be a joke, but saying something like that jokingly does not make it less damaging; quite the opposite. To imply that drugging someone as a means of “picking them up” is funny, even if the reference was not intended to be taken seriously, negatively affects the public’s perception of what should always be regarded as an immensely serious issue. If being rendered unconscious and then raped becomes an acceptable subject of a joke, otherwise decent people will not have the negative reaction to the idea that they should have, and victims of this horrendous crime will worry that others will laugh at them if they seek help or try to report it. Rape cannot be a joke. Ever.

Reaction: “It’s just a line from a movie.”

Something horrible being said in a movie does not magically make that thing acceptable to say elsewhere; it means there is something wrong with that movie. And to have it be said to such a wide audience, especially in the false guise of something humorous, makes that “joke” even more dangerous. The people and organizations who are trying to provide correct, useful information about rape and other forms of sexual violence will have a very difficult task set for them if popular movies and segments aired during large sporting events are making the issue out to be something that does not need to be taken seriously.

Reaction: “He didn’t say anything about rape, you are putting words in his mouth.”

I believe in calling things what they are. “Picking up” someone by drugging them is rape. “Picking up” someone by getting them drunk is rape. “Picking up” someone who is already drunk is rape. Taking the way someone is dressed, the way they flirt, or their lack of refusal, as consent is rape. I sincerely hope that the player in question did not mean to encourage drugging and raping people. I sincerely hope that Coach Dave Christensen and the rest of the UW Athletics Department do not condone drugging and raping people. But the only evidence that I, and 32,000 other fans at that football game, have is what was displayed on that giant screen: A UW football player implying that he “picks people up” by drugging them with chloroform. By raping them. I generally believe that people are decent, and that they understand how terrible it would be to do that to someone, but I must also believe what my eyes see and my ears hear. I hope that they will soon see and hear that player and the UW football program apologizing for their mistake, and putting sincere effort into correcting it.

Reaction: “Why are you picking on this player instead of addressing the real problems, like irresponsible drinking?”

Drinking too much does not cause rape. Staying out too late does not cause rape. Partying at the wrong house does not cause rape. Only rapists cause rape. The victim is never, ever to blame for being raped. Rape is caused by the person who chose to rape someone who is passed out drunk. Rape is caused by the person who drugs someone and then rapes them. If every single UW freshman got drunk and passed out completely naked on the same night, in houses and on lawns all across campus and the rest ofLaramie, every single one of them should wake up the next morning safe and unharmed. Anything less is unacceptable. People do not need to be taught how to prevent themselves from being raped; people need to be taught to not commit rape.

Reaction: “Dave Christensen had nothing to do with this, why are you bringing him into it?”

Dave Christensen is responsible for the conduct and statements of his players, particularly when it is for a pre-taped segment displayed during a UW football game. If Mr. Christensen can concern himself with what the fans are cheering during the game, he can damn well be expected to oversee what his own players are saying on the UW football program\’s official game-day videos.

Reaction: “Saying the player should be reprimanded, or calling Coach Christensen’s salary into question, is too extreme for a single remark.”

A reprimand can take many forms, and I think the reprimand appropriate for this situation depends on the player’s original intentions, as well as his reaction after he is informed of the implications that his comment has for our community. As I have already said, I truly hope that he did not intend to promote drugging and raping people. I understand that his statement may have been made out of unintentional ignorance rather than malevolence. But even if that is the case, he has a duty to work toward correcting the misinformation he has unwittingly fed into the public’s understanding of this important issue. A simple apology or correction from him would be sufficient, and a letter to the Branding Iron would certainly be an appropriate form for it to take. As for Dave Christensen and the other UW athletics staff responsible for the creation and oversight of that segment; they are the ones I hold most to blame. The media department provided not only a graphic of a chloroform bottle, but the official UW football logo as well. Clearly they knew what was being said, and approved of it. If Coach Christensen does not review these segments before they are aired to the massive audiences who turn out to see his football team play, he is shirking his responsibilities as Coach. If he did approve the segment, he is either also implying his approval of the use of drugs to commit rape, or is severely misinformed in regard to what is appropriate and acceptable. I understand that the comment may not have been intended to support rape; I understand that it is even possible that everyone involved in the production was simply too ignorant of its implications to understand what they were displaying in front of everyone. But that does not absolve them of responsibility for correcting the misinformation they have injected into the public consciousness. Mistakes are forgivable; failing to correct them after they have been pointed out to you is not

Consider this: My letter was printed in both the UW Branding Iron and the Laramie Boomerang. The BI later published two letters in response to mine. Numerous people have commented on the issue on each paper’s website, including at least one person who claimed to know the player in question personally. But in spite of all this attention, there has been no reaction from the player, from Christensen, or from UW football—publicly or otherwise. In light of this inaction on their part, I am now going to go so far as to demand that a formal apology be made, whether by the UW football program or by Dave Christensen himself, and that it be made in a forum that could conceivable reach as many people as the segment during the Nebraska game did. For a college student to make an ill-chosen statement is perhaps understandable, and I am not demanding that he be punished for what may have been an honest mistake, though an apology or correction from him would still be greatly appreciated. But we must definitely hold the administrators of the University’s athletic programs, and especially a professional Coach with a million-dollar state contract, to a much higher standard. Even if these people had no connection to the segment in question, they do have a duty to undo the damage which it has done. They are the ones responsible for putting things to rights. I, and thousands of other UW fans, will be waiting. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Geoff Hiatt

  • Guest

    Well said.

  • loot

    TL;DR

  • http://www.facebook.com/cameron.maris Cameron L. Maris

    At some point, I think we have to be willing to sacrifice this molehill for greater concerns.  While I agree with the basis of your argument, and admire and appreciate your persistence over this issue… You have to admit that, while the joke was perhaps distasteful and certainly not audience-appropriate, it’s a pretty perfect example of an unpopular but protected speech under the First Amendment.  Time to move on dot org.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elizabeth-Masters-Hiatt/1089954620 Elizabeth Masters Hiatt

    I’m not sure where the idea that freedom of speech ensures freedom from criticism arose. If a player had made a joke sympathizing with the KKK that too would be protected speech, but you can be sure there would have been an uproar.  

  • Jaime

    This is an example of speech that was representing the university. The First Amendment is not the issue here. The question is, is this the kind of image the University of Wyoming and the football team wishes to convey? Are we a community that laughs at rape? 

  • Sethellsworth

    I agree with Elizabeth, in that first amendment protection doesn’t apply to criticism of what was said, or calling for an apology. Geoff’s arguments about how this type of joke should never be said isn’t really saying we should prevent someone from saying this but rather that people should learn that this isn’t the type of thing that people should be saying in the first place, from an ethical standpoint. Calling for an apology is different than saying prevent this guy from speaking on campus. Can’t believe I am defending that viewpoint, but shit happens.

  • Sethellsworth

    I wouldn’t say that we are in a culture that laughs at rape. Judging by the reactions of what happened at the football game (which I have only heard about, I wasn’t there), we are in a culture that laughs at rape jokes. I think every person you talked to that was at the game that laughed would say that actual rape isn’t funny. I think the point is that Geoff is making is that its the gap between those two ideas that is the real problem.

  • Spencerpittman

    Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The first amendment protection doesn’t apply because Hiatt is not a representative of our government. Also, punishing someone for saying something is practically equivalent to censorship because of the future remarks that are prevented out of fear of the punishment.

    Hiatt can call for an apology all he wants, but we need to ensure that all he gets is an apology. If the college footballer, Christensen, or the producers of the clip suffer, as a result others will learn to expect to suffer when they joke or talk about rape irreverently. That potential fear is what we’re trying to prevent here, not the violation of someone’s first amendment rights. Please don’t make unnecessary concessions that make their arguments appear just. Simply because censorship of private citizens by private citizens doesn’t technically violate the first amendment doesn’t mean it isn’t unjust and we must not allow people to believe it is just.

  • Briam

    I think it’s hilarious that you simultaneously say that a letter to the BI is acceptable, yet later demand that his formal apology reach at least as many people as were present at the Nebraska game. I’m not sure of the exact readership of the BI, but I imagine it’s relatively close to voter turnout for ASUW. It’s seems rather narcissistic of you to assume that the athlete in question and Dave Christensen are either to afraid to respond to your BI letter to the editor or simply too ignorant. I don’t really think that rape jokes are funny, but I would venture to say that most of the people at that game don’t equate laughing at a joke with the decay of their moral stance against rape. 

  • Alienpahnead838

    You’re on the right track. People should be afraid to publicly joke about rape. Censorship by private citizens is called for. Does it bother you that people fear backlash if they support the holocaust or slavery in a public forum?    

  • Geoff Hiatt

    If you’ll look more closely, you’ll notice that I said a letter to the BI would be perfectly acceptable for the PLAYER’S apology or correction; I understand full well that he may have been only trying to make a joke, or quoting a movie, without full understanding of the implications the line actually has.  His mistake is entirely forgivable as long as he helps to correct it. 

    However, I DO expect more from the people responsible for creating and approving of the segment, i.e. Christensen, UW football/athletics, etc.  They are not only paid employees of the University, but they are the ones who are responsible for the content and quality of what is displayed on the screen during games.  It is their job to ensure that inappropriate statements or images are not displayed there.  The fact that this line was included in the segment, complete with a graphic of a chloroform bottle no less, means that they were either not living up to their responsiblility (i.e. didn’t bother to check it first), or were severely uneducated as to what can and cannot be considered acceptable (i.e. didn’t realize the implications the statement has).  The only responsibility the player bears in this incident is answering the question he was asked; it was the other people involved who should have known it was inappropriate, and then explained to the player why it was.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Branding-Iron/100001452263534 Branding Iron

    Read another letter, concerning the potential “censorship” and “libel” contained in Geoff Hiatt’s letter at: http://tiny.cc/9b6mf

  • Spencerpittman

    Would you like to elaborate as to why people should be afraid to publicly joke about rape?  Would you like to discuss why censorship by private citizens is called for?

    No, that fear in itself does not intrinsically bother me.  What bothers me is that the fear might cause those people to not voice their support of any cause they like.  It is not our responsibility to censor others; it is our responsibility to weigh the arguments of others and formulate our own opinions.

  • Spencerpittman

    Hello Geoff!

    I have a few questions regarding your comment here:

    What implications does the line actually have?

    Is there evidence that the line has any negative implications?

    If so, what is that evidence?  (I’m very interested in your answer to this particular question).

    Why do you now assert that the player is not responsible for anything other than the answering the question he was asked?  (In answering this question, please consider that in your fist letter you accused the player of advocating rape.)

  • S_Lawson

    I’m resigning from the UW athletic department. I see this player everyday (and I wonder if he meant it as a joke, I know he did, but my brain won’t quit), I know of some of you, and it’s sickening to know you think it’s ok to laugh at a joke and tell a joke that is basically about how I was violated. I voiced this, I was told to get therapy. I have been in therapy for 5 YEARS! I went to the game and I have felt sick ever since. He may as well have said does this drink taste funny BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED TO ME! I don’t care it was in a movie. I. Don’t. Care. It’s sicker because IT WAS IN A MOVIE. It’s even worse that this was a pre-taped segment and someone, anyone could have put the brakes on but NOT ONE PERSON THOUGHT TO DO THAT. 

    I woke up in my rapist’s bed. He was my boyfriend, angry that I wouldn’t give it up. I went to the police, I went through the exam, and pressed charges. He wound up pleading guilty to simple assault, a misdemeanor because the prosecutor was worried that I wasn’t beaten up, there was a question of consent that it was he said she said. He drugged me, but his attorney said I was a prude who drugged herself to be less inhibited. He lives in Laramie now. He moved here to take a job. He used to joke about rape, actually. And he is a rapist. 
    I cannot believe the type of people attending this university. All of you justifying this can rot in hell. I’m already there, thank you. Words and jokes have power you assholes.

  • Geoff Hiatt

    I’m very sorry to hear that.  You are not the person who should have to upend your life over this.  The people responsible for it should be doing something, anything to correct their mistake.

    I wish you all the best!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elizabeth-Masters-Hiatt/1089954620 Elizabeth Masters Hiatt

    Hi S. Lawson, 
    I’m so sorry to hear that this is having such an awful impact on your life, and that you were ever raped. I know how painful and long lasting the effects of sexual assault can be. You are welcome to contact me at , I’m involved with the Women’s Action Network here on campus and we are trying to put a stop to this kind of thing.
     

  • Spencerpittman

    Like Mr. (and Mrs.)  Hiatt, I offer my deepest, most sincere sympathy.  Though you
    may choose to disbelieve me, I know first hand the kind of pain you’ve
    experienced.  I am truly apologetic if my words and arguments here have
    hurt you in any way.  I admire and am even envious of the courage you’ve
    shown by standing up for yourself legally and here in the public
    forum.  I hope you can try to understand what I, as a fellow victim, am
    trying to accomplish with my arguments.  I know the horror and inner
    disgust of our situation, but my other convictions oblige me to fight
    not only for our own rights but also for those of our opponents and even
    our oppressors.  For us to call for the censorship of anyone
    trivializes the validity of our own testaments by hypocrisy.

    I
    encourage you to use your resignation for much more than personal
    reasons.  Use it in protest.  Show us as a community that words,
    actions, and even negligence do have the power to cause deep pain and
    anguish, but also change.  Your resignation has true potential to cause
    our community to take more seriously the tragedy of all kinds of rape,
    be it violent, drug-enabled, psychological or statutory.  I know it will
    take great personal strength to even consider this as an option, but
    that is clearly a trait you possess in spades.

    It would be an
    honor to be affiliated with you in any way, and I would genuinely prefer
    that it be as compatriots rather than adversaries.  I know you have
    suffered great injustice, but I beg you to not reciprocate.  Promote our
    cause in an ethical and forthright manner.  Lend our movement
    legitimacy by raising awareness without malice or iniquity. 

    On
    Mr. Hiatt’s behalf, I apologize.  His methods have done us a great
    disservice.  We can only hope to prevent any actual damage he might
    cause.  No matter how good his intentions, if his rash campaign
    continues as it has, he will have hurt our mission in a very real way.

    Please, I veraciously beg you, do not repeat his mistakes.

  • Guest

    “There has been a great deal of discussion on the subject on the BI’s website, but I worry that for each person commenting online, there could be a hundred people sitting silently at home with the same misconceptions of the situation.”

    Don’t flatter yourself….not THAT many people read the Branding Iron.

    Unless it is for the Sudoku.

  • http://kcvernon.com/ kcvernonkubichek

    Actually, just the BI online gets over a thousand hits a day, and that isn’t counting the paper version. Regardless, I’m pretty sure he is referring to people who maintain misconceptions of the situation in general, not the Branding Iron comments.

  • Guest

    I admit, I don’t pick the BI up most of the time, but that’s when I see the facebook updates. I did notice that the Sudoku isn’t there anymore (get that back, BI!). Which really just tells me that you don’t read it. Don’t flatter yourself thinking everyone is just like you… that’s called being egotistically, Mr. Guest.